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Silvertone SD20CE Cutaway Acoustic-Electric Guitar vs. Gibson Songwriter Deluxe Square Shoulder Dreadnought Acoustic-Electric Guitar (with Case)

Silvertone SD20CE Cutaway Acoustic-Electric Guitar

Silvertone SD20CE Cutaway Acoustic-Electric Guitar

When the Silvertone Design team finished the SD20CE, they realized that they had built one of the best sounding, best playing acoustics for anywhere near the price. In fact, it was too good to be just one model so they decided to offer the same SD20CE balance of tone and playability, the same select spruce top with pearloid soundhole rosette and fully bound mahogany back and sides, and the same super smooth fully bound mahogany neck with rosewood fretboard and precision die-cast machines.

The SD20 is available in in both a dreadnought and this acoustic electric cutaway models, and in either Gloss Natural or spectacular translucent finishes. The SD20CE acoustic electric features a deep-set cutaway body style and 2-band passive EQ with volume and tone controls.

For more than 50 years Silvertone has been an icon in the American guitar industry. Their mission now, as it was when they began, is to make quality instruments from quality materials with contemporary styling while providing exceptional value. Silvertone has confidence in what they are doing, so every Silvertone guitar comes with a Limited Lifetime Warranty.

Your new Silvertone guitar or bass may well be the only instrument you will ever need to buy.

Silvertone SD20CE Cutaway Acoustic-Electric Guitar Features…

Full Size Dreadnought Electric Acoustic

Cutaway Body Design

Select Spruce Top

Passive Volume & EQ Tone Control

Nato Mahogany Back & Sides

Pearloid Sound Hole Rosette

Bound Rosewood Fingerboard

Rosewood Bridge

Chrome Precision Die-Cast Tuning Machines

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Silvertone SD20CE Cutaway Customer Review

it looks great in black

best for the price!

great quality, exept for the bridge pins

i wouldnt know

a customer from gmail.com (9/10/2008)

Gibson Songwriter Deluxe Square Shoulder Dreadnought Acoustic-Electric Guitar (with Case)

Gibson Songwriter Deluxe Square Shoulder Dreadnought Acoustic-Electric Guitar (with Case)

The Songwriter Deluxe offers superior performance with Rosewood back and sides and an active transducer pickup.

In today’s world, many acoustic guitar manufacturers have chosen to build their instruments more quickly, cheaply, and in greater numbers.

Gibson acoustic guitars are made one-at-a-time, by hand. No shortcuts. No substitutions. They’re made in Bozeman, Montana, where the climatic conditions are ideal for guitar building. Most importantly, Gibson acoustic guitars are built by master craftspeople that have dedicated their lives to building the world’s finest acoustic instruments.

These elements combine to create the difference that is the Gibson acoustic guitar. The difference is “MasterBuilt.”

Environment

Even though they might get a little more snow up there, the environs of Bozeman, Montana are a guitar builder’s dream, come true.

Extreme heat and high humidity are natural enemies of wood. Bozeman has neither. The fine Spruces, Maples, Mahoganies, and Rosewoods are carefully cured and environmentally maintained during the building process.

There are other advantages to Montana in addition to its ideal climate. Gibson’s acoustic guitars rely heavily on its builder’s sense of creativity and concentration. Living in “Big Sky Country” appears to nurture both of these needs. It seems that looking out over a range of snow covered mountains every morning makes for inspired guitar building – which, in turn, makes for inspired guitars.

Artistry

Experienced builders and players understand that handmade quality, design, and construction determine an instrument’s ability to produce truly beautiful sound. Gibson’s methods of handmaking guitars have remained unchanged for nearly a century.

The top brace of each guitar is carefully scalloped and arched to focus the sound to the center of the soundhole. The resulting distinctive “Gibson Tone” shares the same vibrance and fidelity as the sound from a fine audio speaker.

Instead of a cheaper bolt-on neck, Gibson’s dovetail joint technique creates a cohesive bond between the vibrating neck and body – as if the guitar were carved from a single piece of wood. This time-honored technique effectively transfers the strings’ vibrations directly into the wood for superior tone and unsurpassed resonance.

Finally, unlike other manufacturers, Gibson still uses its famous “violin-like” lacquer finish. Over the years, the complex makeup of the lacquer merges with the wood, further sweetening the instrument’s tone and poviding an unmistakable “vintage” look and feel that players and collectors have come to cherish.

Each Gibson acoustic guitar is full of expression, character, and exquisite beauty. None is ordinary, and no 2 are alike. When compared to a marketplace full of “lookalikes,” the differences of a MasterBuilt Gibson acoustic are unmatched in quality and performance.

Warranty

In 1894, in a 1-man shop in Kalamazoo, Michigan, Orville Gibson created a new family of guitars and mandolins that would inspire generations of craftsmen to produce some of the finest instruments the world has ever heard or seen. The Gibson Mandolin-Guitar Co., Ltd., was formed on October 10, 1902, to build instruments that carry on not only Orville’s designs but also his conviction to quality.

Gibson celebrated its 100th anniversary in 1994 with the spirit of Orville still going strong. Gibson’s combination of traditional craftsmanship and innovative technology has made Gibson the only company that produces industry standard models in every style of fretted instrument, from electric and acoustic guitars to mandolins, banjos, and resonator guitars.

The Gibson Gold Warranty carries on the tradition of the limited lifetime warranty introduced by the company’s founders. It represents their commitment to producing the world’s finest musical instruments and providing complete customer satisfaction.

Gibson Gold Warranty

Your new Gibson instrument is warranted to be free from defects in materials and workmanship for the life of the original retail purchaser, subject to the limitations contained in this warranty.

If at any time this Gibson instrument malfunctions as a result of faulty materials or workmanship, Gibson will repair the defect(s) or replace the instrument, as it deems appropriate in its sole discretion. Gibson reserves the right to use materials regularly utilized at the time of repair in the event that original materials are no longer available, If replacement of your instrument is deemed appropriate by our staff, Gibson will replace the instrument with one of the same or most similar style of a value not in excess of the original purchase price of your instrument.

This warranty covers the cost of both labor and materials on any repair deemed necessary by our Customer Service Representative for the lifetime of the original purchaser. In the unlikely event that your instrument is destroyed, lost or damaged beyond repair, while in the possession of Gibson for repair, Gibson will replace that instrument with one of the same or most similar style of a value not in excess of the original purchase price of your instrument. Any insurance covering the instrument, including but not limited to collector’s value insurance, must be carried by owner at owner’s expense. For more info please refer to the Gibson website.

Gibson Songwriter Deluxe Square Shoulder Dreadnought Acoustic-Electric Guitar (with Case) Features…

Body Style: Square Shoulder

Top wood: Solid Spruce

Back and Sides: Solid Rosewood

FB & Bridge Wood: Rosewood

Neck Wood: Mahogany

Fretboard Inlay: MOP Floret

Other Inlays: Abalone Rosette

Scale: 25-1/2 in.

Tuners: Gold Kidney

Finishes: Antique Natural

Pickup: Active Transducer

Other Features: Sculpted Pickguard

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"Gibson Songwriter Deluxe. Great value."

This guitar has the gibson sound. Has good projection and is very balanced whether strummed or played fingerstyle. The fishman transducer is very good and brings out the true characteristics of the instrument. D'addario EXP-16 strings 12-53 are best.

I got this for the same money as a Maton and less than a D28 Martin. I'm laughing. This is so well appointed compared to the others.

It has a slightly orange peel clearcoat on the back. There is a knott in the front sitka spruce. Apart from those things which don't affect the performance it is well made and solid as a rock. There were not body construction faults.

a customer from bigpond.net.au (4/15/2004)
"Great piece."

For some reason this is a really comfortable quitar. I picked it up and haven't been able to put it down.

I very pretty slightly non-traditional design. A small more ornate guitar that is not in the stratosphere in price.

Bought it used. Would have paid more.

a customer from ahoo.com (8/24/2006)

Eminence Wizard 8 Guitar Speaker (75 Watts, 12 in.) vs. Celestion Vintage 30 Classic Series Guitar Speaker (60 Watts, 12 in.)

Eminence Wizard 8 Guitar Speaker (75 Watts, 12 in.)

Eminence Wizard 8 Guitar Speaker (75 Watts, 12 in.)

Like magic, a healthy brewing of the key features of the Private Jack and the Governor Eminence conjures up the Wizard 8 speaker. The Eminence Wizard has great coloration: very articulate, but with a hint of grit. Nice sustain and exceptionally good tight bottom.

If you’ve ever wanted to get that great classic rock sound from the 60s and 70s, here’s the perfect spell!

Eminence Wizard 8 Guitar Speaker (75 Watts, 12 in.) Features…

Nominal Basket Diameter: 12 inches, 304.8mm

Nominal Impedance*: 8 ohms

Watts: 75W

Resonance: 89Hz

Usable Frequency Range: 70Hz-5.5kHz

Sensitivity***: 103

Magnet Weight: 56 ounces

Gap Height: 0.312 inches, 7.92mm

Voice Coil Diameter: 1.75 inches, 44.5mm

Thiele & Small Parameters DC Resistance (Re): 6.13

Coil Inductance (Le): 0.38mH

Mechanical Q (Qms): 11.48

Electromagnetic Q (Qes): 0.49

Total Q (Qts): 0.47

Compliance Equivalent Volume (Vas): 41.5 liters / 1.5 cubic feet

Peak Diaphragm Displacement Volume (Vd): 42cc

Mechanical Compliance of Suspension (Cms): 0.11mm/N

BL Product (BL): 14.4 T-M

Diaphram Mass inc. Airload (Mms): 30 grams

Efficiency Bandwidth Product (EBP): 181

Maximum Linear Excursion (Xmax): 0.8mm

Surface Area of Cone (Sd): 519.5 cm2

Mounting Information Recommended Enclosure: Sealed or Vented Acceptable

Overall Diameter: 12.02 inches, 305.3mm

Baffle Hole Diameter: 10.97 inches, 278.6mm

Front Sealing Gasket: fitted as standard

Rear Sealing Gasket: fitted as standard

Mounting Holes Diameter: 0.25 inches, 6.4mm

Mounting Holes B.C. D.: 11.63 inches, 295.4mm

Depth: 5.2 inches, 132mm

Net Weight: 10.8 pounds, 4.9 kg

Shipping Weight: 12.5 pounds, 5.7 kg

Materials of Construction Coil Construction: Copper voice coil

Coil Former: Nomex former

Magnet Composition: Ferrite magnet

Core Details: Non-vented core

Basket Materials: Pressed steel basket

Cone Composition: Paper Cone

Cone Edge Composition: Paper cone edge

Dustcap Composition: Zurette dust cap

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The guy who put one in his triple X alongside the V 30 did what I eventually wound up doing in my Peavey 2 X 12 tube amp. I bought two of these to make my amp louder but these are so fucking sensitive and HI-FI that it fucked with the overall tone. So I experimented and went back to one Peavey Shefield (Peavey's V 30?) and one Wizard. The amp just rocks with this setup. I sold the other Wizard for 50 bucks.

I can't explainn what the fuck is up with this speaker but it sounds so fucking good when its with another speaker. By itself it isnt all that fucking great.

I play Modern Rock and Metal with a PRS bolt on and a Ibanez JS 100 with EMGs. This Speaker is kick-ass for distortion or clean but that's only when its with the Peavey speaker going full blast too. All by itself the wizard sounded too fucking exact like a HI FI with no character of their own. Maybe they bring out all the good shit that the peavey Shefield doesn't have? Mixing the speakers sounds way better than the two Peavey Shefields or two Wizards together. WTF?

It's a speaker. Looks heavy duty.

Been playing for 7 years. Mostly heavy rock to metal music. I have a Peavey VTM 120 head with a Avatar 2 X 12 bottom that I got off ebay without speakers. This is a good speaker to put with something else but I didn't like it by itself.

KT (09/05/2005)

I use it with a Les Paul w/ stock pickups, Fulltone Fulldrive, Orange AD30.<p>It's great on clean tones with the AD30. Nice crystal clear with just a hint of cone breakup.<p>I find it to be a little harsh when using dirty tones with the Orange and Les Paul combination. The Orange is a very midrangey amp to begin with, and coupled with the humbuckers on a Les Paul, I don't find the Wizard to be the right combination for me.<p>I liked the prospect that it was supposed to be a lot like the Celestion G12H (at a fraction of the price), but I think I'll go with the actual Celestions next time.<p>

I also used a JTM-45 in the same set up, and I found that combination much better with these speakers. They tightened up the JTM45's sometimes flabby bottom at louder volumes a bit, and the cone breakup was a good complement for the JTM45's tone.<p>

To sum up, if you're using a mellower/darker voiced amp, they sound great. This would include even a JCM800, in my opinion. But I don't recommend them for an amp that already has a very active high-mid and treble color in combination with dirty tones. There's just a peak somewhere there in the higher ranges of the cone breakup that doesn't complement my Orange. Bear in mind, I am very very picky.

16 ohm version. Put in a custom 2×12 cab.

No problems.

Ben (06/11/2005)

Celestion Vintage 30 Classic Series Guitar Speaker (60 Watts, 12 in.)

Celestion Vintage 30 Classic Series Guitar Speaker (60 Watts, 12 in.)

Think of your all time favorite guitar solo – chances are it was played through Celestion loudspeakers. When a toughened G12 radio loudspeaker was combined with an early guitar amplifier back in the 50’s, who could have imagined the sound would be so influential. But the soft, creamy overtones produced by an overloaded valve amp through a Celestion speaker had defined a whole new sound; one that powered the emerging guitar heroes of the period and, during the next 4 decades, became the undisputed Voice of Rock ‘n Roll.

Be it Manchester Brit-pop, L.A. shred-metal, or Seattle grunge, it’s more than likely coming at you through a Celestion. Most of the classic names in guitar amplification continue to rely on the unique tonal characteristics of Celestion loudspeakers to produce their trademark sounds.

Vintage 30 Features

Modern guitar loudspeaker designed to handle high output with vintage tone and style.

Tight and responsive single note definition, with masses of volume and sustain.

100dB sensitivity makes the Vintage 30 ideal for use with high gain valve amplifiers.

The first choice for many modern rock guitarists.

About the Classic Series

Beginning with the legendary Celestion Blue, the world’s first dedicated guitar loudspeaker, these Classic speakers have delivered many of the memorable guitar performances in contemporary music over the past four decades. Hand-built, using traditional methods to retain their unique tonal characteristics, the Classics are considered by leading guitarists and amp manufacturers as the finest guitar loudspeakers that money can buy.

To experienced ears, each of the Celestion Classics is instantly recognizable: the Blue for its exceptional dynamic range, the Classic Lead for its presence, the Greenback for its warmth, the Vintage 30 for its definition, the G12H for its tight bottom end, and the G12T-75 for its pure, unadulterated grit. No wonder Celestion Classic loudspeakers are the guitar world’s Number One choice.

Six guitar loudspeakers that have come to define the voice of rock and roll.

From authentic vintage reissues to cutting edge new designs, each model has been created to perform in every conceivable situation.

Highest quality materials and components ensure supreme reliability and unparalleled tone.

Available in either 8- or 16-Ohm impedance.

The leading choice of classic names in guitar amplification.

Now made in China — Same classic speaker: new Chinese production plant.

Celestion Vintage 30 Classic Series Guitar Speaker (60 Watts, 12 in.) Features…

Power Handling: 60W

Impedance: 8 or 16 Ohms

Sensitivity (1W @ 1m): 100dB

Resonant Frequency: 70Hz

Frequency Response: 70Hz – 5kHz

Magnet Weight: 50 oz.

Country Origin: China

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I've recently purchased a American Fender Lonestar Strat but only had a solid-state POS to play it through. With my limited budget I bought the best value in tube amps that I could find, the blues Jr. For over-drive/distortion I got the tube-driven VOX Bulldog distortion pedal(highly reccomended) paired with my Seymour Duncan Pick-up Booster pedal, and for a while I was happy. I finally had the tube sound I was looking for, kind of…

The more I played the Jr., I noticed that the clean was not clean enough and the overdrive lacked the balls that I wanted. My mind could only think of one thing….Celestion. I considered the Alnico Blues, however a speaker more expensive than the amp itself seemed stupid, so I was talked in to buying the Vintage 30, semi-reluctantly. I threw it in the Jr. when I got home and was blown away. This was a totally new amp. Lows, mids, highs: all clear. Overdrive had balls of steel, but was also clear. what really amazed me was the higher frets on the b and e strings; no mud. The amp sounds twice as "big" as a day before. It was beautiful. plus it is a blues jr. I could not be happier for the money. I've also heard it in the Hot rod deluxe with the same results. It makes these mediocre amps sound spectacular.

It's a speaker in a box. what else is there?

Haven't had it long enough to know.

I've playing quite some time now. I play a few different instruments in all sorts of musical styles and know what sounds good. I have not heard many different guitars through the amp or the 30 in many different amps, but the Jr. isn't the best or most versatile amp, and this speaker transformed it into a work of art. I highly reccommend it in any fender amp and would give it a shot if you ary at all unhappy with your current rig. It has finally put an end to my spending for a great guitar sound.

Blind$ide (03/19/2006)

I find it amazing that opinions differ so much on this speaker! I've spent way more money buying and testing speakers that my wife was comfortable with, and the vintage 30 was by far the winner. The cleans have SO much character and body, as does mild overdrive tones. Crank up the gain and you have AWESOME rhythm sounds that maintain note clarity in chording. Maybe the best sounds from this speaker are the solo tones. The mids are so smooth and just pronounced enough to cut through, while still sounding thick. Keep in mind my musical interests in no particular order: blues, all rock from 70's to today, aggressive rock/metal, and all combinations of above. No jazz,country,etc. so I can't comment on how this speaker responds to these styles.

60 watt handling, 16-ohm, what else? It's a speaker! I give it a 10 because this speaker is so versatile in covering different music styles!

I run two 16 ohm speakers in a semi-open back cab(8 ohm cab), which amounts to a 120 watt cab into a 100 watt tube head. I haven't had any problems. I wouldn't recommend exceeding the power rating on these speakers!

Ive been playing 20 years. Some of the speakers I've used to compare these are: celestion G12T-75, G1230H Anniversary, Shetfield(5150 cab), Carvin British series, and numerous others that I don't recall the model #'s. Amps I've used are Rivera KR-100 and Pubster, Carvin Legacy, Mesa Nomad, Marshall TSL60, Carvin X100-B, Mesa Dual Rectifier. Guitars include PRS, Fender Strat, Ibanez w/JB Duncans. IMHO, the vintage 30's sounded best with all of these amps and guitars-no exceptions!

In short, I know there are many, many speakers I have not tried, but after hearing the vintage 30's, I just couldn't stop smiling! I'm completely satisfied with my speakers, and if you knew me, that's all that needs to be said!

Chris (02/23/2005)

Epiphone G310 Emily the Strange Electric Guitar (with Gig Bag) vs. Ibanez RG370DX Electric Guitar

Epiphone G310 Emily the Strange Electric Guitar (with Gig Bag)

Epiphone G310 Emily the Strange Electric Guitar (with Gig Bag)

This Limited Edition guitar features Emily’s face and other graphics from the Cosmic Debris character as well as special cat’s eye inlays at the 12th fret. It’s equipped with an Alder body, Mahogany neck, 22-fret Rosewood fingerboard, dual open humbuckers with 3-way switching, and Chrome hardware. If you’re trying to find a guitar that makes a bold statement, look no further!

Epiphone G310 Emily the Strange Electric Guitar (with Gig Bag) Features…

Body: Alder

Neck: Mahogany

Fretboard: Rosewood With 22 Frets

Inlays: Dot, With “Cat’s Eyes” Inlays At 12th Fret

Pickups: Dual Open-Coil Humbucking

Controls: 2 Tone & 2 Volume

Switching: 3-Way

Tuners: Chrome Tuning Machines

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Total Punk Axe

For those of you looking for a great punk, or rock axe, this is the one for you. Great quality sound, maybe just some minor imperfections but a great axe for a great price!

xskaterpunkzownx from Y-Vegas, North Carolina (Jul 12, 2006)

Well, I don't have any guitars with humbuckers, only single coils and stacked single coils. So I don't know how to compare. My intention was to change the pickups and tuners (cause I heard the tuners on the G-310 were crap) right away. However, I recorded a track with different parts and I thought the sound worked well.

The only thing is, sometimes it seems muddy when playing full chords. I've only had this guitar for three days, so I plan on doing an update later. Mine didn't come with stickers. I think maybe that was only for the first run?

It's supposed to be the same as a Epiphone G-310 (SG style, two humbuckers, two volume, two tone, tuno-o-matic bridge) except for the awesome finish. I'm not sure what the wood used is. I've seen alder and basswood listed for the woods used in the Emily Strange, the one I bought didn't say which it is. Also I've seen "hardwood body" listed on some. The neck is supposed to be mahogony with a rosewood fret board.This one is made in china.

Awesome finish! I wanted an actual Gibson SG with trapaziod inlays and all cause I like how SGs look but I couldn't resist the look of this finish. The guitar seemed setup well. I don't think I'm going to adjust the neck, bridge or pickup height cause it seems fine. I've heard (well read stuff online) alot of people complain about the set up of these guitars but I think the store I got it from did a good job of setup.

The neck feels different to me because I'm used to Fender style guitars. I have a Fender U.S.A. Cyclone, Fender Japan Telecaster, an Ibanez Talman (with the three lipstick tube pickups), a Valley arts start style and a warmoth guitar which is Fender style. So the SG felt different to me but I played it a few hours yesterday (I just got it two days ago) and I started to get used to the rounder Gibson style neck. It seems better for chording than soloing to me.

The guitar gets a 9 for the finish. I found out the swirly design on the volume and tone knobs are STICKERS. I hope they don't peel off. If it wasn't for that, I'd give it a 10 for the finish.

I'm giving it a 7 for action etc because I believe a real Gibson SG would play better.

I haven't tried getting it repaired yet of course. There is a lifetime Epiphone warranty.

rabbit (10/01/2007)

Ibanez RG370DX Electric Guitar

Ibanez RG370DX Electric Guitar

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The RG guitar line is the unchallenged standard in hard and heavy rock guitars. The RG370DX employs several of Ibanez’ most-popular upgrades, including the Edge III bridge and Wizard II neck.

Have you seen the headlines? “Guitar rock is back.”

Ibanez is happy to hear it. Except at Ibanez, guitar rock never “left” – and if you’re the type of player who reads Ibanez catalogs, you’ve been too busy playing guitar or bass to worry a whole lot about the media’s take on music. However, the papers are right about one thing: there are more new guitar and bass guitar styles than ever before. That’s why there are more different kinds of guitars and basses in the 2003 Ibanez line up.

Ibanez RG370DX Electric Guitar Features…

* Wizard II neck — 25.5 scale neck is 2mm thicker than the super-thin, super-flat Ibanez Wizard.

* 3-piece Maple neck material

* Basswood body — Basswood is a comparatively lightweight wood, which makes it very comfortable for extended playing. With a good balance of highs and lows, basswood is right in between alder and mahogany in sound character.

* 24 jumbo frets offer easy playing for leads and chording.

* Bound Rosewood finger board offers a strong, bright sound and an attractive appearance with a long grain.

* Edge III bridge

* IBZ INF3 (H) Neck PU

* IBZ INFS3 (S) Mid PU

* IBZ INF4 (H) Bridge PU

* Sharktooth inlay

* Black hardware

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"if you're thinking about buying this ,you're buying from the right place. you get 30 days to play it,and return it if you don't"

it a hot looking guitar ,but honestly they all look pretty much the same.

worth the price. great deal

it's a beautiful guitar. looks like IBENAZ really paid attention to detail. it kind of brings up my point about lack of a gig bag.

havn't need service

a customer from verizon.net (7/5/2008)

I play mostly Heavy metal but sometimes i play some old rock.

i use zoom 505II and hughes and kettner Edition Silver 50W and it souds great. It changes it's soud from rough metal sound to light rock sound easily

2003 Korean Made

24 frees

Wizzard II neck

Rosewood fingerboard

Everything standard!

No flaws everything was perfect. It had good setup and it came with daddario 0,9 strings whick suits guitar perfectly. Very beautiful for live shows.

never had a problem

Anonymous (04/04/2004)